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Log entry time 09:18:26 on August 2,2001
Entry number 68603
This entry is a followup to: 68573
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keyword=more details on "g2" helicity gating modifications
Since the entry from last night appears to have problems, I copy in here an
email giving more details...
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:26:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ronald Gilman
To: Robert Michaels
Cc: jpchen@jlab.org, averett@jlab.org, reitz@jlab.org,
Wolfgang Korsch , Ronald Gilman
Subject: Re: sign reversed
Hi Bob...
we raced through the setup last night; it only took Bodo and me
about 30 minutes to set up the "g2n random" mode. Here are notes
and at the end a suggestion for improving the circuit.
0) Important: if the helicity frequency is changed upstairs
the circuit timing needs to be adjusted.
1) The glitches should not matter. Since the clock pulse is
10 - 13 us after the "delayed helicity" transition, and the
glitch is ~6 us after, it does not affect the sequence of
events started by the clock.
2) The clock pulse has the same time variations as the
"delayed helicity", ~ +/- 50 us full width out of 33 ms.
3) In the counting house:
a) We use clock to start two channels LeCroy G&D set to
500 us (systematic difference < 100 ns, individual
variations +/- ~100 ns, 100 ns FW sort of number based
on few minutes with scope, may be, eg, daily fluctuations
due to temperature variations, etc., etc., etc.)
b) We used the delay output of each to start LeCroy G&D
set to ~32.7 ms, accuracy ~ 30 us I think. These second
LeCroy channels have the "helicity +" and "helicity -" =
"helicity + complement" inputs as inhibits, so one only
fires on h+ and the other only fires on h-. Note again
there should be short 10-15 ns spikes output in the counting
house when gated by the other phase, but these will be dispersed
away.
- The inhibiting here is likely where I reversed the phases of +/-
I'll check after we speak this morning.
c) we saw that the typical time difference between end of one gate
being TRUE and start of next (either same or other phase)
being TRUE was typically ~650 us, which seems a reasonable safe
choice, about as we expected, but some times it appeared to jump
to ~800-900 us. We did not look into this, it seems too much.
Another task for today.
4) We send the signals to each spectrometer. In the spectrometer,
there is a logical fanout of the incoming signals. We use the
start of it to start a LeCroy G&D latch, the complement output
of the fanout to stop the latch at the end of the signal, and
use the run gate to inhibit the latch.
- When the run gate goes away, you will still get these 10-15 ns
glitches from the LeCroy, which could allow some scaler counts,
could allow the helicity gate itself to be counted, though probably
the timing is a little wrong since the gate is so short. We probably
should switch to Phillips. I think it is more important in the
spectrometer than upstairs.
Changes: The setup downstairs suggests we can make the time in the two
phases more symmetric if we do the following to the crate upstairs.
1) Remove the discriminator, add in a logic fan in / fan out (we need the
extra channels).
2) Use G&D channel a to set up 500 us delay. Use the delayed output to
start...
3) G&D channel b, set up 32.7 ms. Put NIM output to fanout to start...
4) G&D channels c and d, which are inhibited by h+ and h-, respectively,
and stopped by the complement of channel b output.
5) Fan out channel c and d outputs to send downstairs.
This way there should only be statistical fluctuations in the widths of
the two helicity phases, not systematic differences.
So... although you have done these checks, I suggest we switch to the
Phillips modules downstairs, and redo the crate / LeCroy circuit
upstairs as I described.
rg
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Robert Michaels wrote:
> From a short run tonight, in "g2n random" mode (our
> running config), it looks like the sign of the spectrometer
> DAQ asymmetry is reversed from before. I suggest it be
> the same as before. At least one should attempt to under-
> stand from the cabling why it is reversed. I don't have
> enough statistics to comment on the agreement of magnitude
> yet. Will tomorrow.