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*Jie
 
**Showed an updated version of multi-track efficiency analysis.  He determined that his new method of <br>including background cuts is not as reliable as his previous method to determine uncertainty.  By including <br>background cuts, the systematic uncertainty is decreased by about 20%, but it very position dependent, so <br>he suggests staying with his previous results.  His presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_06_04_multi_track_eff/Multitrack_20130604.pdf here].
 
**Showed an updated version of multi-track efficiency analysis.  He determined that his new method of <br>including background cuts is not as reliable as his previous method to determine uncertainty.  By including <br>background cuts, the systematic uncertainty is decreased by about 20%, but it very position dependent, so <br>he suggests staying with his previous results.  His presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_06_04_multi_track_eff/Multitrack_20130604.pdf here].
 
 
  
 
 
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==5/22/2013==
 
 
Present: Kalyan, Jixie, Karl, Min, Jie, Melissa  <br>
 
By-Phone: Pengjia, Ellie, Toby, Ryan, Moshe <br>
 
 
'''General discussion:''' <br>
 
*Min will give the g2p update at the next Hall A collaboration meeting (June 13-14)
 
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Jie
 
**Working on systematic uncertainty study for multi-track efficiencies.  He found that ~1.4% of <br>one track events (that pass PID cuts) are not aligned in the pion rejectors, suggesting a <br> misconstruction in the VDC.  However, when acceptance cuts are applied, this number of events <br>that are mis-aligned drops to ~0.1%. <br>
 
**Also showed a background study to determine the systematic uncertainty for the correction <br>factor for events with 2 or 3 tracks.  For the worst case, the correction to the total number <br>of events is 17.73% (+0.14%) (-0.27%).  Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_05_22_multi_track_eff/vdc_multitrack_20130516.pdf here]
 
 
*Melissa
 
**Showed results for beam charge asymmetry for upstream BCM after fixing problems from previous <br>results.  Will compare with Pengjia's results once it is complete. Full details are [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/BeamCharge/BeamCharge_05_22.pdf here]
 
 
*Pengjia
 
**Working on BPM calibrations and encountered a few problems. For higher currents, the noise <br>pedestal is very large compared with to the signal, and sometimes there are reflections from <br>the pedestal.  This means there is a large dependence on current for calculated beam positions.  <br>His first step will be to try and eliminate the effects of changing current.  Full details can  <br>be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/05222013/bpm_status_20130522.pdf here]
 
 
*Min
 
**Last week showed results from LHe events, this week showed the results from carbon events.  <br>Previously she found issues with the first order matrix calibration using beam positions that <br>were not calibrated.  First she will update the results using calibrated beam positions.  If this <br>does not solve the problem she will choose a different run with more stable beam conditions. <br>Her presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/05222013/052213_snake.pdf here]
 
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==5/17/2013==
 
 
Present: JP, Kalyan, Jixie, Karl, Min, Alex  <br>
 
By-Phone: Pengjia, Toby, Ryan, Elena <br>
 
 
'''General discussion:''' <br>
 
 
*NEW meeting time:  We will meet at Wednesday 10:30 from next week.
 
*Poster competition abstracts due on today, May 17th. Please submit an abstract ASAP!
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Ryan
 
**Working on Ytg calibration.  Ryan present the Ytg calibration result for LHRS using <br>
 
a run without target field and also that for RHRS but with 5T longitudinal target field. <br>
 
It looks like that the beam position is not stable at all during the course we took optics data.<br>
 
If one apply a cut on the beam position the optimized Ytg will achieve 0.5 mm resolution. <br>
 
Otherwise it will be about 1.1 mm.  Details can be seen [https://userweb.jlab.org/~rbziel/Weekly_Meetings/Optics_51613.pdf here].
 
 
 
 
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==5/10/2013==
 
 
Present: JP, Vince, Kalyan, Jixie, Jie, Min, Melissa <br>
 
By-Phone: Pengjia, Toby, Ryan, Ellie, Karl, Alex <br>
 
 
'''General discussion:''' <br>
 
*If you haven't yet filled out the Doodle poll for a new meeting day/time, please do so ASAP!
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Melissa
 
**Working on a cross-check of beam charge asymmetries.  Showed stability of up/down BCMs.  For some energy <br>settings there is a drift in one of the BCMs.
 
**Also showed results for charge asymmetries, but there may be a problem with helicity decoding (shifted by one bit). <br> She will talk to Pengjia/Chao about this and fix results for next time. Full details can be seen [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/BeamCharge/BeamCharge_05_10.pdf here].
 
 
*Pengjia
 
**Showed an update on beam charge asymmetries.  He used Chao's helicity decoder and his own as a double <br>check, and saw similar results using both decoders.  Full details can be seen [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/05102013/charge_asym_05102013.pdf here]
 
**Still working on BPM calibrations (just finished copying over data)
 
 
*Min
 
**Showed an update on SNAKE matching data, this time using a run where the beam was better centered.  <br>Since the new run was taken with the foil in LHe, the energy loss from the LHe will have to be accounted for.
 
**The current result for the difference in y between data and SNAKE is ~3.3mm, with delta-y = ~3.2mm.  <br>Full details can be seen [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/05102013/051013_snake.pdf here]
 
 
 
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==5/03/2013==
 
 
Present: JP, Vince, Min, Jixie, Kalyan, Jie, Melissa <br>
 
By-Phone: Pengjia, Toby, Ryan <br>
 
 
'''General discussion:''' <br>
 
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Toby
 
**Showed an update of study to determine systematic uncertainty for TE measurements.  He used 1st-4th order <br> polynomials and compared the quality of the fits.  2nd, 3rd and 4th order polynomials seem to give good results, <br> but the 1st order polynomial is much worse.  To determine the uncertainty, he chose the two fists with the most <br> agreement and looked at the variance between the two fits.  This resulted in a relative uncertainty that <br>varied from 2-30%.
 
**JP/Vince suggested trying a different function to fit the baseline subtracted signal, since the fluxation in <br> uncertainty suggests that the polynomial fit is not stable. Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/toby/g2p%20meetings/05.03.13.pdf here]
 
 
*Ryan
 
**Looking at how y-target values are calculated with the optimization code.  It looks like the code uses 3 <br> different values for real y-target while it runs, which results in a "shoulder" in the reconstructed y-target <br> variable.  He will look at BPM information to see if multiple peaks are visible.
 
 
*Pengjia
 
**Showed results from using helcity information to determine the fast clock rate.  Because the fast clock is <br> not stable, there is a shift in time in the phase fit for the slow raster ADC data.  Pengjia is working on how <br>to account for this.
 
**Also working on beam charge asymmetries.  He first determined them using Chao's decoder, but will check using <br>his own decoder.  His presentation can be found  [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/05032013/fastclockvsasym.pdf here]
 
 
*Jie
 
**Showed his procedure for determining uncertainties for muti-track efficiencies. For 2 and 3 track <br> events, two methods were used to determine the systematic uncertainty.  Method 1 considered tracks that <br> were within one block of each other. Method 2 loosened the cut on the distance between blocks (two block <br> widths), but additionaly required that at least one track satisfy a set of acceptance cuts.  JP suggested <br> that method 2 is the better method, but method 1 could provide an upper limit on the systematic uncertainty.
 
**Also working on data quality checks for optics variables (t0 and tracking variables).  Looks good <br> so far with a few problem runs. Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_05_02_multi_track_eff/LHRS_multitrack_20130502.pdf here]
 
 
 
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==4/26/2013==
 
 
Present: JP, Vince, Kalyan, Jixie, Alex, Jie, Min, Melissa <br>
 
By-Phone: Elena, Toby, Ryan, Karl, Pengjia <br>
 
 
'''General discussion:''' <br>
 
In regards to status of data quality checks: <br>
 
*List of variables can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/kalyan/data_quality_checks.txt here]
 
**PID detectors (Cherenkov, lead glass): pretty much complete
 
**VDC: Jie is making good progress
 
**Optics: Some variables will have to wait until optics is more complete.  For now, Jie will start looking at <br> focal plane variables, which don't require optics.
 
**Helicity: Pengjia/Chao will start working on this
 
**EPICS variables: Ryan will take a look at this. 
 
**Scintillators: Trigger efficiencies and deadtime are done.  Ryan will look at helicity gated deadtime.
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Melissa
 
**Showed results from data quality checks for RHRS PID detectors.  Found a total of 46 runs with "issues". <br>  Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/DataQual/DataQual_04_26.pdf here].
 
**Will compile results from LHRS and RHRS into a document.
 
 
 
*Min
 
**Showed updates on SNAKE tuning.  Described her plan for improving results shown previously; first she will <br> look at a run with better centered beam (but carbon in LHe).  Then she will try to tune the Q1 field.  If this <br> doesn't work she will adjust other fields/currents in the SNAKE model to match.  JP suggested talking to <br> John Lerose to understand how well different parameters of the system are known, and adjust the model appropriately.  <br> The effect of the septum field on Q1 is still the biggest unknown.  Her presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/04262013/0426013_snake.pdf here]
 
 
 
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==4/19/2013==
 
 
Present: Vince, Chao, Jie, Melissa, Jixie, Min, Kalyan <br>
 
By-Phone: Elena, Toby, Ryan, Karl, Alex, Pengjia <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Toby
 
**Showed an update on target uncertainty analysis.  The uncertainty in the TE measurements seems to <br> be very small (~10<sup>-5</sup>), however, there might be an error in the calculations.
 
**Also showed the results of using different order polynomials to fit the baseline subtracted <br> NMR signals.  He used 1<sup>st</sup>-4<sup>th</sup> order polynomials and found a large variance of uncertainty (70%) <br> between fits.  Next time he will show more details of the procedure to understand this large variance. <br>  Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/toby/g2p%20meetings/04.18.13.pdf here]
 
 
*Jie
 
**Working on determining the uncertainty for the multi-track efficiency.  For zero track events,<br> the systematic uncertainty was determined by counting events that survive the PID cuts, but have <br> no track in the VDC. For 2/3 track events, two methods were used to determine the systematic  <br> uncertainty.  Method 1 considered tracks that were within 14.5 cm (the width of one block) of each <br> other, so it was not possible to distinguish between them.  Method 2 loosened the cut on the <br> distance between blocks (29cm, two block widths), but additionaly required that at least one <br> track satisfy a set of acceptance cuts.  Method 1 gives a larger systematic uncertainty. Full <br> details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_04_19_multi_track_efficiency/Multitrack_20130419.pdf here].  Next time Jie will show results for the "worst case" kinematic setting.
 
 
*Pengjia
 
**Showed the status of the raster calibration.  Previously, he used information from both BPM A and B <br> to determine the raster size at the target.  This led to a huge uncertainty (1mm), so instead <br> he will use only information from BPM A.
 
**Also showed new results for fitting the slow raster phase - fit looks much better!  However, it seems <br> that the fast clock rate appears to be unstable on a run to run basis.  He will check this using other <br> copies of the fast clock.  For the fast raster phase reconstruction he will first use the ADC value directly.
 
** Next he will work on a BPM noise study and improving the BPM resolution.  His presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/04192013/raster_status_20130419.pdf here]
 
 
*Ryan
 
**Working on y-target optimization.  Found that optimization didn't rely on BPM information. It's possible <br> that the two peak issue is a result of an issue with the BPM reconstruction, specifically that the reconstruction <br> doesn't take into account the foil location.  Ryan will discuss with Pengjia to figure out the problem. <br> Full details can be found [https://userweb.jlab.org/~rbziel/Weekly_Meetings/g2p_2013419.pdf here]
 
 
 
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==4/5/2013==
 
 
Present: Karl, Vince, Jixie, Kalyan, Chao, Jie, Min, Melissa <br>
 
By-Phone: Elena, Toby, Ryan, Alex <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
*Practice talks for Chao/Min will be Thursday, April 11th <br> An e-mail will be sent out with the time/location
 
 
*There will be no meeting next week, as many people will be gone for GHP/APS meetings.
 
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Chao
 
**Working on updating the simulation package.  Showed a comparison of the 2 carbon elastic <br> models.  There seems to be good agreement for the region where data is available.  Also <br> showed tests of the similuation for scattering angle and delta-p.  Full details can be <br> found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130405/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_04052013.pdf here]
 
 
*Min
 
**Working on tuning the SNAKE model.  Showed an updated table of uncertainty from first order <br> matrix, this time with y0 and phi0 as lineraly correlated variables.  Working on tuning the Q1 field, <br> possibly by studying the sieve hole projection closer to the focal plane center.  Full details <br> can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/03212013/03212013_snake.pdf here]
 
 
*Melissa
 
**Showed the results of data quality checks for the LHRS.  Found a total of 48 runs with "issues". <br> Also had to update PID cuts for runs taken with a short ammonia cell.  Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/DataQual/DataQual_03_21.pdf  here]
 
 
 
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==3/29/2013==
 
 
Present: Vince, Jixie, Kalyan, Chao, Jie, Melissa <br>
 
By-Phone: Pengjia, Min, Karl, Elena, Toby, Ryan, Alex <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
We will have practice talks starting next week for students going to GHP/APS meetings: <br>
 
Toby/Melissa: Thursday, April 4th <br>
 
Chao/Min: Thursday, April 11th
 
 
An e-mail will be sent out with the time/location.
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Pengjia
 
**Showed the status of the raster calibration.  He is going to use the position transport function to calulate <br> the size of the raster at the target.  The problem with this method is it will increase the uncertainty because <br> of the BPM.
 
**Also working on slow raster shape resonstruction to minimize uncertainty caused by the accuracy limit of the ADC. <br> He will try using a successful fit (entries 2000-2100) and extrapolating to another region (entries 7000-7100).  <br>  Also, he needs to determine the actual rate of the fast clock from scaler data.  Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/03292013/raster_status_20130329.pdf here ]
 
 
*Jie
 
**Working on multi-track efficiencies.  He extended his previous analysis to include 7-track events.  Next he will <br> determine how this contributes to the overall systematic error.  His presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_03_28_multi_track_efficiency/LHRS_multitrack_20130328.pdf here ]
 
 
*Toby
 
**Working on the target polarization uncertanties.  The leading uncertainty comes from the fit to the wings of <br> the baseline subtracted signal.  He will check the fit with different functions to determine an uncertainty of the fit. <br>. His presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/toby/g2p%20meetings/03.29.13/g2pmeeting_3_28.pdf here ]
 
 
*Ryan
 
**Gave an update on RHRS longitudinal optics for the "very bad" septa configuration.  He showed the results for the y-target <br> calibration after applying a tight cut on BPM x-values.  The results seem to agree with values predicted by the formula from <br> Min's technote.  Full details can be seen [https://userweb.jlab.org/~rbziel/Weekly_Meetings/Optics_32013.pdf here ]
 
 
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==3/21/2013==
 
 
Present: JP, Jixie, Kalyan, Jie, Melissa, Chao, Min <br>
 
By-Phone: Karl, Elena, Ryan, Toby, Alex <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentations:'''
 
*Melissa
 
**Showed the procedure for data quality checks using PID detectors.  See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/DataQual/DataQual_03_21.pdf here ]  <br>
 
 
*Chao
 
**Working on updating the simulation package.  Tested the cross section weighted distribution <br> 
 
with P. Bosted model.  Currently working on the elastic carbon-12 model. Full details can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130321/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_03212013.pdf here]
 
 
*Min
 
**Working on tuning SNAKE model.  Trying to find the center sieve hole coordinates at various end plates. <br>
 
Currently able to account for only half of the effect (either phi or y). <br> 
 
Will work on adjusting the septum current and HRS offset to optimize SNAKE model with data. Full presentation can be found [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/03212013/03212013_snake.pdf here]
 
 
*Kalyan
 
**Showed a [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/kalyan/data_quality_checks.txt list] of variables being used for data quality checks.
 
 
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==3/15/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Jie, Min, Melissa, Chao, JP, Karl, Kalyan, Vince <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Elena Long, Pengjia <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
Next meeting will take place in Thursday 14:30.  Vince will reserve a room and <br>
 
send notification through email.
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
*Jie:
 
** Updated the multiple track analysis. <br>
 
**The discrepancy between L-HRS and R-HRS in multiple track events was solved after updating the database <br> 
 
which define the geometry. <br>
 
Studied the faction of at least one good track in all events for all runs. After carefully reconstruction, <br>
 
the multiple track events, we can find at least one good electron in 98% of total triggers, with about<br>
 
1% systematic error. Jie will provide the detail number later.  See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_03_14_multi_track_efficiency/LHRS_multitrack_20130315.pdf here]<br>
 
**Will do the same analysis to the right HRS. <br>
 
 
*Toby:
 
**Working on target polarization uncertainty
 
**Preparing the presentation for GHP.
 
 
*Ryan:
 
**Rerun replay for 5T longitudinal field Optics runs with the CORRECT BPM calibration constants. <br>
 
Used a wrong BPM settings in previous replay and can not get reasonable beam position. Got reasonable BPM information<br>
 
at this trial but beam position covers a wide range of 2 mm, which means the beam was drifting way slowly. <br>
 
**Did a [https://userweb.jlab.org/~rbziel/Weekly_Meetings/Optics_31512.pdf Y_tg optimization]. The result is about 2 to 3 mm away from what it should be.  JP suggested to make cuts<br>
 
on beam position at the target (mainly horizontal) then try again.  <br>
 
 
*Pengjia:
 
**BPM calibration status: most run is ready, but the part between April 26 to 30 is not ready yet. <br>
 
**Working on raster calibration. See Pengjia's talk [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/03152013/bpm_status_03152013.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
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==3/8/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Jie, Min, Melissa, Chao, JP, Kalyan <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Elena Long, Karl, Pengjia <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
*Melissa:
 
** Moller write up (By Sasha) is ready in the wiki. (G2p wiki-> Analysis ->Moller)
 
** Beam polarization run by run result is ready.  The bleed through from hall C in terms of beam ratio<br>
 
was less than 1%. The beam polarization for the bleed though was as small as several percents. We can ignore <br>
 
this part in the analysis. (Melissa is very kind to provide a run by run table.) <br>
 
** [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/Technotes/Efficiency_technote_draft.pdf Tech note] for colorimeter and Cherenkov efficiency is ready to review. <br>
 
 
*Chao:
 
** Working on the simulation packages. Optimized the drift in field module by dynamically changing the<br>
 
step length. <br>
 
** Present the idea that how we determine the vertical interaction position which is needed to do reconstruction.<br>
 
** Check how large the distribution center will move after weight by cross section. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130308/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_03082013.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
*Min:
 
** Kept tuning snake model to match real spectrometer. Made the following changes. <br>
 
A) Solved a few bugs of position offsets. <br>
 
B) Extended septum box to cover more field region, aiming to reduce the BdL lost <br>
 
C) Adding HRS offsets using survey results <br>
 
D) Using the real Q1 currents <br>
 
** With this update, the center hole hits on focal plane have about 8.7 mm shift in y position if match the phi angle<br>
 
or have 8.5 mrad shift in phi angle if match the y position.  See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/03082013/03082013_snake.pdf here].
 
 
*Pengjia:
 
** Present a [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/03082013/pos_optics.pdf slice] for the beam position for the optics data that were taken on March 14, 2012.  It turned out that <br>
 
the beam position was not centered. It had 4.4 mm shift to the left and 1.5 shift to the up. <br>
 
** The slice also indicated that BPM B is not stable. Pengjia agreed to find a way to avoid unnecessary fluctuation.<br> 
 
 
*Jixie:
 
** Present the [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jixie/20130228_DetermineCentralValue/DetemineCentralValue.pdf study] of how well can we determine the central value for a distribution. <br>
 
** There is no good event by event resolution for the scattering angle when the target field is on. We will reconstruct <br> 
 
FP hits only to the target plane. By comparing the central value for the scattering angle and also the cross section distribution <br> 
 
between cross section weighted or unweighted situation, we can tell how well we can determine the central value. <br>
 
Jixie did this comparison in several HRS momentum settings. The work show that we can determine the central value better than<br>
 
1% using snake model. To reach this precision in real data, we have to calibration the reconstruction to avoid any offsets and bias. <br>
 
See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jixie/20130228_DetermineCentralValue/DetemineCentralValue.pdf here]. <br> 
 
 
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==3/1/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Jie, Min, Melissa, Chao, Karl, Vince, Kalyan <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Elena Long, Alex <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
*Toby:
 
**Analyzed the target polarization [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/toby/g2p%20meetings/03.01.13/targetunc.pdf uncertainty]. <br>
 
 
*PengJia:
 
**Merged HAPPEX decoder to g2plib. The beam packages will use HAPPEX decoder by default. Before it is <br>
 
fastbus. HAPPEX has much better resolution than fastbus if fastbus is using auto gain. Pengjia compared<br>
 
the resolution of these 2 daqs at various situations. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/03012013/bpm_status_20130301.pdf here]. <br>
 
**Found an optics run (22259) that happex and fastbus did not agree with each other. PengJia agree to <br>
 
to check all optics runs to see if this problem occur or not. <br> 
 
 
*Ryan:
 
**Tried to use PengJia's BPM package.  Need some more work to get it right. <br>
 
**Practiced Ytg optimization. <br>
 
 
*Jie:
 
**Updated the multiple tracks efficiency analysis. <br>
 
**The goal is to find the ratio of at-least-one-good-track event in two-track events under normal cuts.  <br>
 
**There is a large deviation between L-HRS and R-HRS in previous talk.  Jie found that it was because the <br>
 
database of the prl1 and prl2 geometry was wrong. After manually correct the data, L-HRS and R-HRS agree <br>
 
well to each other. See his nice work [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_02_28_multi_track_lhrs/LHRS_multitrack.pdf here].<br>
 
 
 
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==2/22/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP, Alex <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Elena Long, Karl <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
*Melissa:
 
**Got the asymmetry result run by run from QWEAK Compton polarimetry. Match it <br>
 
to the g2p run by run according to the time stamp.  Will use this asymmetry table to <br>
 
to check if there is any fluctuation in the beam polarization. See details
 
[http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/BeamPol/BeamPol_02_22.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
*Chao:
 
**Working on building the single arm simulation program, testSNAKE.  Add field and field integration modules.<br>
 
**Test the method of "Match reconstructed trajectory to Beam trajectory to get the interaction point". <br>
 
The results shows that this method does not have a good event by event reconstruction at all. <br>
 
See [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130222/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_02222013.pdf  the slices] for details.<br>
 
 
*Jixie:
 
**Test the trajectory matching method independently. Jixie generated events at 3 2-mm-Z-slices: 10cm upstream,<br>
 
target center and 10 cm downstream. The results show that the matching method can not find the interaction point<br>
 
at all. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jixie/20130220_MatchTraj/MatchTrajectories.pptx here]. <br> 
 
 
*Min:
 
**Continue working on creating a snake model that can represent g2p setting. Phifp and Yfp can not match at the same time.<br>
 
Need more efforts. See this [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/02222013/02222013_snake.pdf link] for details. <br>
 
 
*kalyan:
 
** Updated the analysis status flow [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/kalyan/g2p_analysis_flow_feb2013.pdf chart].<br>
 
Most of the task is done. BPM and slow raster is in progress. Straight through optics is 80% done. <br>
 
It depends on BPM calibration. <br>
 
 
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==2/15/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia, Elena Long, Karl , Alex<br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
The Fall DNP (October 23-26, 2013) for this year will be held at Newport News.
 
Can we have result by then? 
 
Answer: Not likely.
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
*Toby:
 
**average N sweep area to get the mean value <br>
 
**Systematic errors came from Magnetic field drift, temperature fluctuation, NMR drift and so on <br>
 
will be added to each sweep later. <br>
 
**Systematic error is about 2-3%. Will details later. <br>
 
**will go back through the TE measurements and using a more rigorous chi2-minimization technique to exclude poor data <br>
 
See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/toby/g2p%20meetings/02.15.13/polUncertaintyAna.pdf here].<br>
 
 
*Ryan:
 
**Provided a root library to connect to the mysql database. <br>
 
 
*Jie:
 
**Updated on the two-track analysis for both arms. There is about 20% deviation between left and right arm<br>
 
on the ratio of one good track out of two-track events.  This issue is still over there. Jie will keep working <br>
 
on it. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_02_14_multi_track_rhrs/multitrack_2013214.pdf here].<br>
 
 
*Pengjia:
 
**Generated transport function from BPM to target center for field is on situations. <br>
 
**Found a better way to determine harp noise. <br>
 
**Updated BPM packages. Used the uncertainty of each single harp measurement as the weight in the TMinuit fitting.<br>
 
The BPM uncertainty (preliminary) is about 1.5 mm for position and 1.4 mrad for<br>
 
angles when target field is off. There will be some room to improve. <br>
 
 
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==2/08/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Alex, Vince, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia, Elena Long <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
*Melissa:
 
** Finalized the cut and efficiency analysis.  The pi/e ratio after the optimized cut are <br>
 
now 0.4% for both arms.  See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/Efficiency/Eff_02_08.pdf here]. <br>
 
** Melissa agreed to write some note about this job. <br>
 
 
*Toby:
 
**The previous R-HRS cooking used a wrong calibration file for the preshower. Need to do a recook.<br>
 
 
*Min:
 
** Working on tuning the snake to match the real data. Min tried to turn the quadrapole and<br>
 
dipole such that the simulated variables in FP match the real data. But this is wrong. She will<br>
 
go back to the original dipole setting and try to tune septum fields. <br>
 
 
*Chao:
 
**Gave [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130208/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_02082013.pdf an update about the simulation]. <br>
 
A ZERO and FIRST order post processing correction have been made to the none raster snake model. The Zero order correction <br>
 
can remove most of the offsets between real data and snake model. The FIRST order correction can make it event better. <br>
 
This is just a machinery check to make sure the program work fine. Will present this kind of job once Min finish tuning SNAKE.<br>
 
From the ZERO order correction we can see that Q1 in the snake model need some tuning.<br>
 
 
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==2/01/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Vince, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia, Karl <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
*Ryan:
 
**Present the result of quality check: <br>
 
LHRS: 956 good runs (73%), 104 junks(8%), the others have some <br>
 
issues which might be useful with extra treating.<br>
 
R-HRS: 798 runs are good (68%) and 109 are junks(9%) <br>
 
See details [http://nuclear.unh.edu/~ryan/MYSQL.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
*Pengjia:
 
**Improved the code which is judge whether the beam is drifting.<br>
 
**Updated MUDIFI program to export c code with error transfer function, refit the BPM transport functions.<br>
 
See Pengjia's talk [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/02012013/bpm_status_02012013.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
*Jie:
 
**Working on the multi-track analysis. Check the status [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_01_31_multi_track_lhrs/LHRS_multitrack.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
 
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==1/25/2013==
 
 
Present: Jixie, Vince, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP, Katherine <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia, Karl <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
*Chao:
 
** Add Rotating Coordinate System (RCS) to Focal Plane variable in the code. In the real DB, the reconstruction <br>
 
takes the variables in the RCS, not the Transport Coordinate System(TCS). With this modification, the reconstruction<br>
 
between simulation and real DB agree with each other better. But still have noticeable difference.
 
** The forward transport of the snake model still have some offset to the real detected FP variables. Need to correct <br>
 
the offsets. 
 
** Checked the first order matrix elements for both real DB and SNAKE backward model. The real DB matrix first <br>
 
order elements for <theta_tg|y_fp> and <theta_tg|phi_fp> seem too large. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/chao/20130125/Chao_WeeklyMeeting_01252013.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
*Min:
 
** Presented a writeup for the [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/01252013/uncertainty_pointing.pdf uncertainty of the pointing measurement]. According to this document, to reach<br>
 
0.5% relative uncertainty of the scattering angle, the uncertainty of the energy difference between 2 peaks <br>
 
in the pointing measurement should be 45 keV. <br>
 
** Present the initial pointing result [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/01252013/01252013.pdf].<br>
 
 
*Melissa:
 
** Worked on optimizing the PID cuts for good electrons. She has done that for a few momentum settings. Need to <br>
 
go through all the momentum settings. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/melissac/Efficiency/Eff_01_25.pdf  here].<br>
 
 
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==1/18/2013==
 
Present: Jixie, Vince, Jie, Min, Kalyan, Melissa, Chao, JP <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia, Karl <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
From next week, we will have the weekly analysis meeting at 10 AM every Friday.
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
* Ryan:
 
# Presented the [http://userweb.jlab.org/~rbziel/Weekly_Meetings/Optics_1712.pdf optics calibration] for 5T longitudinal field data set, R-HRS. <br>
 
 
*Pengjia:
 
# Presented the status of BPM calibration for straight through data set. <br>
 
Pengjia was trying to find the time interval that the beam is not stable and treat<br>
 
them separately. He is using the 1000 events and 7500 events moving RMS to determine<br>
 
one whole run into several period. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/pzhu/01152013/beammove.pdf here]. <br>
 
 
* Jie:
 
#Took an initial look at multiple tracks at the colorimeter. Jie was suggested to add<br>
 
the electron cut then repeat the analysis. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/jie/2013_01_14_multi_track_lhrs/LHRS_multitrack.pdf here].<br>
 
 
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==1/8/2013==
 
Present: Jixie, Vince, Jie, Min, Melissa, Kalyan, Chao, JP, Karl <br>
 
By-Phone: Ryan, Toby, Pengjia <br>
 
 
'''General discussion'''
 
 
* APS abstract deadline is this Friday.  The deadlines for GHP and INPC are also very <br>
 
close. Those who want to attend these conference please prepare the abstract as early as possible. <br>
 
 
'''Feature presentation:'''
 
 
* Min:
 
#Presented the Ytg optimization for R-HRS using NO target field data. See details [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/01082013.pdf here]. <br>
 
#Prepared the non-raster SNAKE backward model for Chao.
 
 
*Chao:
 
#Working to compare the 1st order matrix element between REAL DB and SNAKE backward matrix. <br>
 
#Chao has a long term plan to make a simplified version of HRS simulation using existing modules. <br>
 
 
*Melissa:
 
#Updated the result of Detector efficiency and Cut efficiency for L-HRS. See her latest result [http://hallaweb.jlab.org/experiment/g2p/collaborators/mhuang/01082013.pdf here]. <br>
 
Will do the R-HRS next. <br>
 
 
* Toby:
 
#Working on replay script. The output ntuple is too big. Students need to discuss and determine what variables should <br>
 
be kept.  Jixie suggested to include the unfinished BPM reconstruction in the cooking train at this moment.  To save time and <br>
 
space, do not cook optics runs. <br>
 
  
  

Revision as of 14:19, 19 June 2013

Minutes of the weekly analysis meetings


Agenda

6/12/2013

Present: Karl, JP, Vince, Jixie, Chao, Jie, Min, Alexandre, Kalyan, Melissa
By-Phone: Ellie, Toby, Ryan, Moshe, Pengjia

Feature presentations:

  • Chao
    • Has fixed the bit-shift problem in the offline helicity decoder. The next round of farm replay will
      have correct helicity information.
  • Melissa
    • Showed a comparison between her and Pengjia's results for beam charge asymmetries. The results
      show ~0.5% difference. It's possible that the beam trip cuts that Pengjia used is the reason for this
      difference. Her presentation can be found here.
  • Min
    • Showed an update of angle and vertex matrix calibration results using previous bpm calibrations. The results
      are not better. She is still working on improving it by applying beam current cuts and beam position cuts.
      She will also try using a different run to optimize that has the same conditions but a more stable current
      She will check that the beam position is also stable during this run. Her slides can be found here



6/5/2013

Present: Karl, Vince, Kalyan, Chao, Jie, Min, Melissa
By-Phone: Ellie, Toby, Ryan, Moshe, Guy, Pengjia

General discussion:

  • There will be a practice talk for Min's Hall A Collaboration Meeting talk sometime soon (Friday or Monday?)


Feature presentations:

  • Moshe
    • Gave an update on the status of GEp analysis. He did a first round of analysis without calibrations,
      to determine a general procedure for analysis. He showed preliminary results for elastic peak
      identification, binning optimization, dilution factors and asymmetry extraction. He is also working
      on writing a GEp event generator for HRSMC. His presentation can be found here.
    • Details of status of GEp analysis can be found in this document, written by Moshe.
  • Pengjia
    • Working on improving BPM resolution. He added a low pass, software FIR filter when processing
      the data, which seems to work very well. The previous results were 7-8X larger then the results that
      have been processed with the filter. He is working on incorporating this into his beampackage code,
      and will repeat his BPM noise study using the filter. Will also check if the central value changes at all
      as a result of the filter. His presentation can be found here.
  • Ryan
    • Working on the LHRS Y-target calibration. He optimized 3 runs in the 2.2 GeV (0T, 6deg) setting
      with different beam positions; (4,0), (0,0), (-4,0). The results seemed strange, specifically for the (0,0)
      and (-4,0) settings. He first tried optimizing each run individually, which gives results that make sense.
      He then tried optimizing them in pairs, and got reasonable results except for the combination of (0,0)
      and (-4,0). Finally, he tried to check these results using other runs with the same beam positions, but
      found that during these optics runs, the beam position was never moved back to (0,0). Vince pointed
      out that the typical resolution for y-target is ~1mm, so these results may be ok. Ryan's presentation
      can be found here.
  • Toby
    • Showed updated target polarization calibration constants. He decided to use a 3rd order polynomial
      to fit the wings of the baseline-subtracted signal. It's possible that the discrepancy between using a
      2nd and 3rd order polynomial could result from the signal "bleeding" into the wings. He described his
      method for minimizing the reduced chi-squared to find the TE points. He starts with a set of 15 points
      where the target is most thermalized, and adds points from the beginning/end of the TE to further reduce
      the chi-squared.
    • He also found that the 2.5T calibration constants found offline are ~50% smaller than what was determined
      online. He will work closely with James/Josh to confirm that this really is a problem. His presentation can
      be found here.
  • Jie
    • Showed an updated version of multi-track efficiency analysis. He determined that his new method of
      including background cuts is not as reliable as his previous method to determine uncertainty. By including
      background cuts, the systematic uncertainty is decreased by about 20%, but it very position dependent, so
      he suggests staying with his previous results. His presentation can be found here.



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