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* Wouter: General simulation updates. | * Wouter: General simulation updates. | ||
* Scott: Lead wall thickness determination. | * Scott: Lead wall thickness determination. | ||
− | * Jacob: Pion detector optimization. [https://dilbert.physics.wm.edu/MOLLER+Simulation/79 WM ELOG 79][https://dilbert.physics.wm.edu/MOLLER+Simulation/80] | + | * Jacob: Pion detector optimization. [https://dilbert.physics.wm.edu/MOLLER+Simulation/79 WM ELOG 79][https://dilbert.physics.wm.edu/MOLLER+Simulation/80 WM ELOG 80] |
* Any new business? | * Any new business? | ||
=Minutes= | =Minutes= | ||
− | Attendees: | + | Attendees: David, Wouter, Paul, Seamus, Kurtis, KK |
Not Attending: | Not Attending: | ||
Scribe: Kurtis | Scribe: Kurtis | ||
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+ | * David:(Tracking related) We should really start having MOLLER tracking related meetings soon. Seamus will give a review of the tracking related items at the collaboration meeting. David will email Silvu about summer designer time that he has available. | ||
+ | * Wouter: General statements | ||
+ | ** Noticed an implementation issue with a generic sensitive detector and aux tags in GDML. Has been fixed. | ||
+ | ** Absorption lengths in air and lucite have been set to their correct values. The 1 meter cut is now longer included. Absorption length should be correct now for those materials. | ||
+ | ** Also working on implementing a sensitive volume on the surface between the lucite and the light-guide. This will help quantify the number of photons coming from the Cherenkov light in the lucite with out the added effect of reading out from the PMT and light-guide geometry. | ||
+ | ** Also working on exploring the possibility that pmts and lights-guides should be point inside radially instead of point out. This should help minimizing the cost of the lead shielding and possibly help with background suppression. David - This should reduce the cost of the amount of lead shielding needed. | ||
+ | ** Planning to include a wedge between the lucite and the light-guide similar to the main detectors. This will probably better couple the light-guide to the lucite. | ||
+ | ** KK - If you go with the pmts radial pointed inside, then make sure they are in the shadow of the first collimator. Looking at Rakitha's directors review talk slide 11. | ||
+ | * David(Jacob's work) - Looking at WM ELOG MOLLER 79 and 80 | ||
+ | ** WM ELOG MOLLER 79 - At this point, the results show that we should really shouldn't have a light-guide at all. We should just directly couple the PMTs to the lucite. We are a bit dubious about this result and will continue to investigate. | ||
+ | ** Jacob also has some preliminary results on optimizing the light-guide length, lucite thickness in Z, PMT size(diameter), lucite angle with respect to the incoming pion from the lead wall. | ||
+ | ** KK - Need to run a simulation to get the photon shadow in that lower radius region. | ||
+ | ** Wouter - Ran a quick simulation with the light-guides pointed inside. Seems that we should have a enough space. Still need to keep that in mind in the future. This design should allow some separation of the ep ee signal the detector sees. | ||
+ | ** KK - Should implement the optical properties that have been benchmarked with test beam data. Basically, slow and fast scintillation components. | ||
+ | ** Wouter - No scintillation component implemented yet. | ||
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+ | * KK - Point of agenda: Results organization, how do we store our results in log book form or docDB. Seamus will be able to talk on what SOLiD has implemented. | ||
+ | |||
+ | * No meeting next week, collaboration meeting. |
Latest revision as of 09:58, 14 April 2017
MOLLER wiki home:MOLLER_at_11_GeV_E09-005
Previous Meeting: MOLLER_Pion_Background_Meeting_Friday,_April_7,_2017_9:00am_EST
Meeting Information
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Agenda
- Wouter: General simulation updates.
- Scott: Lead wall thickness determination.
- Jacob: Pion detector optimization. WM ELOG 79WM ELOG 80
- Any new business?
Minutes
Attendees: David, Wouter, Paul, Seamus, Kurtis, KK
Not Attending:
Scribe: Kurtis
- David:(Tracking related) We should really start having MOLLER tracking related meetings soon. Seamus will give a review of the tracking related items at the collaboration meeting. David will email Silvu about summer designer time that he has available.
- Wouter: General statements
- Noticed an implementation issue with a generic sensitive detector and aux tags in GDML. Has been fixed.
- Absorption lengths in air and lucite have been set to their correct values. The 1 meter cut is now longer included. Absorption length should be correct now for those materials.
- Also working on implementing a sensitive volume on the surface between the lucite and the light-guide. This will help quantify the number of photons coming from the Cherenkov light in the lucite with out the added effect of reading out from the PMT and light-guide geometry.
- Also working on exploring the possibility that pmts and lights-guides should be point inside radially instead of point out. This should help minimizing the cost of the lead shielding and possibly help with background suppression. David - This should reduce the cost of the amount of lead shielding needed.
- Planning to include a wedge between the lucite and the light-guide similar to the main detectors. This will probably better couple the light-guide to the lucite.
- KK - If you go with the pmts radial pointed inside, then make sure they are in the shadow of the first collimator. Looking at Rakitha's directors review talk slide 11.
- David(Jacob's work) - Looking at WM ELOG MOLLER 79 and 80
- WM ELOG MOLLER 79 - At this point, the results show that we should really shouldn't have a light-guide at all. We should just directly couple the PMTs to the lucite. We are a bit dubious about this result and will continue to investigate.
- Jacob also has some preliminary results on optimizing the light-guide length, lucite thickness in Z, PMT size(diameter), lucite angle with respect to the incoming pion from the lead wall.
- KK - Need to run a simulation to get the photon shadow in that lower radius region.
- Wouter - Ran a quick simulation with the light-guides pointed inside. Seems that we should have a enough space. Still need to keep that in mind in the future. This design should allow some separation of the ep ee signal the detector sees.
- KK - Should implement the optical properties that have been benchmarked with test beam data. Basically, slow and fast scintillation components.
- Wouter - No scintillation component implemented yet.
- KK - Point of agenda: Results organization, how do we store our results in log book form or docDB. Seamus will be able to talk on what SOLiD has implemented.
- No meeting next week, collaboration meeting.